Fatwa: # 39527
Category: Women
Country: Lebanon
Date: 8th August 2018


Menses problem


Assalamu 'alaykum I have been suffering with this problem for a year and I can't get the answer to solve it. I've searched everywhere online. To ascertain purity from menses, there must be dryness or the white thread. I feel as if I don't get either one. I never get the white thread and so I go off of the "dryness" ruling however, I feel I'm checking wrong because there's almost always moisture in the privates and it's always discolored. What I mean is the "dryness" I experience lasts 30 minutes maximum, but that's only AFTER I clean the privates. Also, if This yellow color can last up to a week after the menses and it feels wrong to delay prayer for that long so I clean my privates, wait ten minutes, and wipe to see if its dry and I do ghusl. It's usually dry using this method because I had cleaned the privates prior. 1. My question is, is this "dryness" wrong because I clean myself beforehand and only wait 10-30 minutes? How do I ascertain purity without the hardship? What is the minimum time that "dryness" has to be established? 2. Also, how must one wipe? is it superficial wiping as in istinja or must one insert the tissue inside the privates to check? Superficially it can be dry however, if the tissue is inserted on the inside, it's always discolored and never dry of discoloration. So I am confused. Jazakum Allahu khairan for all the help.


In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

As-salāmu ‘alaykum wa-rahmatullāhi wa-barakātuh.

We apologize for belated reply.

v A woman experiences three types of discharges: [1] 

  1. Discharge from the Farj al-Kharij (Vulva-the external region of the vagina)
  2. Discharge from the Farj ad-Dakhil (Vagina)
  3. Discharge produced anywhere beyond the Farj ad-Dakhil (beyond the vagina)

The first type of discharge is pure and does not invalidate Wudhu.

The second type of discharge, according to the preferred view is pure and does not nullify Wudhu.[2]

The third type of discharge, produced in any region beyond the Farj ad-Dakhil (vagina) is impure and nullifies Wudhu. This includes discharge produced in the uterus and cervix.

However, if a female is unaware of the exact origin of her discharge (the vagina or the cervix) as may happen in many cases, then she must renew her Wudhu and purify herself before Salah. This is so because of the possibility the discharge may be from the cervix and thus impure.[3]

In principle, if a cotton is placed inside the vagina and is wet, but there is no blood on it, then that will not be haidh until the cotton is removed from within and the blood is visible on the cotton.[4] [5][6] 


In the enquired situation, if there is a yellow discharge after the haidh period, then it is istihadhah.[7] [8]
If you make wudhu after inserting the cotton, if the blood or yellow discharge does not reach the edge of the vaginal opening, then wudhu is valid. There is no need to wipe and check inside frequently.[9]



And Allah Ta’āla Knows Best

Mahmood Baig

Student Darul Iftaa

Jeddah, KSA

Checked and Approved by,
Mufti Ebrahim Desai.

v For more details on Clarification and Laws of Vaginal Discharge see the following links:




v You may also refer to the following books for detailed information:

1)       “The Laws of Menstruation, Postnatal Bleeding & Dysfunctional Uterine Bleeding,” http://www.zamzamacademy.com/files/docs/articles/01The%20Laws%20of%20Menstruation%2c%20Postnatal%20Bleeding%20%26%20Dysfunctional%20Uterine%20Bleeding.pdf


2)      Birgivi on fiqh of womens issues -https://rasoolurrahmah.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/birgivi-on-fiqh-of-womens-issues.pdf


[1]  إمداد الفتاوى، ج 1، ص 121-130، مكتبة دار العلوم كراتشى


تحفة المحتاج في شرح المنهاج وحواشي الشرواني والعبادي (1/ 301)

(قَوْلُهُ بِخِلَافِ مَا يَخْرُجُ مِمَّا يَجِبُ غَسْلُهُ إلَخْ) وَالْحَاصِلُ أَنَّ رُطُوبَةَ الْفَرْجِ ثَلَاثُ أَقْسَامٍ طَاهِرَةٌ قَطْعًا وَهِيَ مَا تَكُونُ فِي الْمَحَلِّ الَّذِي يَظْهَرُ عِنْدَ جُلُوسِهَا وَهُوَ الَّذِي يَجِبُ غَسْلُهُ فِي الْغُسْلِ وَالِاسْتِنْجَاءِ، وَنَجِسَةٌ قَطْعًا وَهِيَ مَا وَرَاءَ ذَكَرِ الْمُجَامِعِ، وَطَاهِرَةٌ عَلَى الْأَصَحِّ وَهِيَ مَا يَصِلُهُ ذَكَرُ الْمُجَامِعِ شَيْخُنَا اهـ بُجَيْرِمِيٌّ (قَوْلُهُ وَمِنْ وَرَاءِ بَاطِنِ الْفَرْجِ إلَخْ) لَعَلَّ الْمُرَادَ بِهَا الْخَارِجَةُ مِنْ دَاخِلِ الْجَوْفِ وَهُوَ فَوْقَ مَا لَا يَلْحَقُهُ الْمَاءُ مِنْ الْفَرْجِ سم


[2]  الدر المختار وحاشية ابن عابدين (رد المحتار) (1/ 313)
(قَوْلُهُ: بِرُطُوبَةِ الْفَرْجِ) أَيْ: الدَّاخِلِ بِدَلِيلِ قَوْلِهِ أَوْلَجَ. وَأَمَّا رُطُوبَةُ الْفَرْجِ الْخَارِجِ فَطَاهِرَةٌ اتِّفَاقًا اهـ ح. وَفِي مِنْهَاجِ الْإِمَامِ النَّوَوِيِّ رُطُوبَةُ الْفَرْجِ لَيْسَتْ بِنَجِسَةٍ فِي الْأَصَحِّ. قَالَ ابْنُ حَجَرٍ فِي شَرْحِهِ: وَهِيَ مَاءٌ أَبْيَضُ مُتَرَدِّدٌ بَيْنَ الْمَذْيِ وَالْعَرَقِ يَخْرُجُ مِنْ بَاطِنِ الْفَرْجِ الَّذِي لَا يَجِبُ غَسْلُهُ، بِخِلَافِ مَا يَخْرُجُ مِمَّا يَجِبُ غَسْلُهُ فَإِنَّهُ طَاهِرٌ قَطْعًا، وَمِنْ وَرَاءِ بَاطِنِ الْفَرْجِ فَإِنَّهُ نَجِسٌ قَطْعًا كَكُلِّ خَارِجٍ مِنْ الْبَاطِنِ كَالْمَاءِ الْخَارِجِ مَعَ الْوَلَدِ أَوْ قُبَيْلَهُ. اهـ. وَسَنَذْكُرُ فِي آخِرِ بَابِ الِاسْتِنْجَاءِ أَنَّ رُطُوبَةَ الْوَلَدِ طَاهِرَةٌ وَكَذَا السَّخْلَةُ وَالْبَيْضَةُ. (قَوْلُهُ: أَمَّا عِنْدَهُ) أَيْ: عِنْدَ الْإِمَامِ، وَظَاهِرُ كَلَامِهِ فِي آخِرِ الْفَصْلِ الْآتِي أَنَّهُ الْمُعْتَمَدُ


[4] Birgivis manual: pg 49


[5] See the following hadith:

عن علقمة قال اخبرتني امي ان نسوة سالت عائشة عن الحيض تغتسل اذا رات الصفرة وتصلي فقالت عائشة لا حتى ترى القصة البيضاء. (موطأ مالك و صحيح البخاري)

Translation: Alqamah RA narrate: My mother told me that some women asked Aisha RA if a menstruating woman who notices yellowish discharge should perform ghusl and offer salah? She responded, “No, until you see a clean white discharge.” (Bukhari: v1 p47 & Muwatta Malik:117)



[6] Birgivis manual : pg 44


[8]  ذكر المتأهلين والنساء: ص169- الوان الدماء، متى يعتبر اللون.

[9] Birgivis manual: pg 48 & 50


[10]  ذكر المتأهلين والنساء: ص170- احكام الكرسف

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